"The Enneagram: for Christians"
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Rick_C



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick post (as an aside on preconceived ideas and/or stereotyping).

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Suzana wrote:
Also I'm not sure if people can be, or should be, so neatly divided into categories.

Don replied:
I agree. We think that if we put a person into a box (category), then we have a handle on the person. We think we know what he is. But that can be a serious mistake.

I think that this may sometimes be the motive even for asking a person what church he attends or belongs to. The one who asks often thinks he knows what that denomination or church teaches, and thus generalizes, thinking he knows what the person believes and practises. But most likely that information tells him very little, if anything, about that individual.


I agree, Don.

When I ask someone what church they go to, I usually have in the back of my mind a preconceived notion of what it is they believe. I can easily stereotype them (as I suppose we all could).

For example, not long ago I didn't know if United Methodists were theologically liberal or conservative. (In the media and on the web they had often been portrayed as liberal). Only after further investigation did I learn that though there is a significant "liberal wing" in the UMC (United Methodist Church); the majority of UMC churches and folks are theologically conservative---also discovering that all of the UMC churches in my area are the same.

Personal story.
I once got to know a Catholic guy at work. Somehow we came to the topic of "being saved." Strangely, I thought, this man knew what I was talking about! "But I thought you Catholic folk don't believe in getting saved," said I. "Well, this Catholic sure does!" he exclaimed, adding, "But I stayed in the Catholic Church so I could lead other Catholics to the Lord. They need to get saved just like everyone else!"
(I couldn't find any reasons to argue with that)......

"Ok," I thought to self, "this guy's a Catholic, eh?"
And a SAVED one at that...(Praise God and who knew?)....Anyways, I gtg.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick note.
I took the similarminds test a little while ago...and didn't see anything requiring a language warning at the time (sorry about that, folks, maybe you should take another one).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: "The Enneagram: for Christians" Reply with quote

Rick_C wrote:
What's strange.
The very same people who say I "should be teaching" quite often also say they don't know what I'm talking about! or otherwise, don't appear to be all that interested? or have the intelligence to comprehend what I say? This strikes me as odd and I don't know what to do (unless they want to take the time and effort to Investigate?)....


HA! I hear the very same things said to me. Smile

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, my score is 5w6. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You should teach the Bible and theology!"
Reply: "Like what, for example?"

"End Times Prophecy."
Reply: "OK, lets go to 1 Thessalonians chapter four."

"You mean the rapture when we go to heaven for seven years, right?"
Reply: "No, this chapter says doesn't say that. Look & tell me what it says."

"You don't believe in 'the' rapture?"
Reply: "Every Christian believes in 'the' rapture."

"Then why don't you?"
Reply: "Just tell me what it says, nothing more nor less."

"You think 'we have to go thru the tribulation?' Well, you can, but 'I won't be here'!!!"
Reply: "Never miiiiiind"....Go4it, Sean! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick_C wrote:
"You should teach the Bible and theology!"
Reply: "Like what, for example?"

"End Times Prophecy."
Reply: "OK, lets go to 1 Thessalonians chapter four."

"You mean the rapture when we go to heaven for seven years, right?"
Reply: "No, this chapter says doesn't say that. Look & tell me what it says."

"You don't believe in 'the' rapture?"
Reply: "Every Christian believes in 'the' rapture."

"Then why don't you?"
Reply: "Just tell me what it says, nothing more nor less."

"You think 'we have to go thru the tribulation?' Well, you can, but 'I won't be here'!!!"
Reply: "Never miiiiiind"....Go4it, Sean! Wink

Aww...you give up to easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came out as a 7w6 which would be an Enthusiast with a wing of Loyalist. Would that be a "Loyal Enthusiast"?

I would love to read more about how the different types interact with one another. Do you have any info on that Rick?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle,

Yeah, maybe I do sometimes.
Bible & theology talk takes lots of time & energy.
(A lot of folks don't have--or make--enough of these).....

Rae,

"Which one you are" depends on who's system you use.

I don't know enough about the enneagram to comment on how diff types get along & so on. And, in a way, that kind of reminds me of astrology to where you're supposed to be compatible with certain signs & etc.

There are books on the enneagram but I haven't read any. Afaik, the focus is on individual personality and self-improvement, and so on.

I took the similarminds Enneagram/with Myers-Briggs (5w9 and INTP). Myers-Briggs has some stuff on compatibility, in terms of the 16 personality types.

Don't know if that helps any....
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